IDY – No, I Don’t Have Any

No, I Don’t Have Any
1989 The Furnace Room

IDY – Keyboard, drum programming, sampler, voice, whatever

Side 1:

  1. You’re So Punk (extended dance mix)
  2. Smoke Bomb in My Coffee (new version)
  3. The Boring Reggae / Industrial Song

Side 2:

  1. The Spookey Song
  2. You’re So Punk
  3. Groove 2
  4. Point Between the Margins
  5. Richard A Gulling 2

This is the second tape by IDY – it really continues down the same path as Richard A Gulling, which is avant-garde/experimental/etc music. Some of it is electronic, some of it sounds more organic (or sampled from organic). This is the original Furnace Room release – it was picked up by Corpqii Productions a couple of years later and expanded. There are song structures and rhythms here along with the experimentation, so this is not a noise project as many think of when you say “experimental.” Like I always say – I know this is not everyone’s thing, so no need to tell me that in the comments. I like it, especially because it gives me a break from listening to a dozen Journey-clones in a row.

IDY – Richard A. Gulling

Richard A. Gulling
1989 The Furnace Room
East Canton, Ohio, USA

IDY – Keyboards, guitar, melodica, fretlees bass, voice, drum programming, drums

En Berk – Guitar on “Don’tKillPeople(it’snotanicewaytomakefriends)“
The Woodchuck – Bass, singing on “AAAhhhhCathedral”
Ley C. Gault – Keyboards, voice on “AAAhhhhCathedral”


  1. LiedTo
  2. Gulling
  3. BowlinginGary’sLittleCloset(asolemnmatter)
  4. ACS
  5. DEATH
  6. Shade1
  7. LaPazStreetReggae
  8. GracetheFormal
  9. ADeviation
  10. AAAhhhhCathedral
  11. TheOpenSun
  12. Blue7


  1. Richard’sElementaryGroove
  2. 1,532
  3. TheyBurnHouses
  4. Nasser
  5. SmokeBombinmyCoffee
  6. TenMenMarchtoFrogsboro
  7. Don’tKillPeople(it’snotanicewaytomakefriends)
  8. RiskofPoverty
  9. She’stheBestActor
  10. WalkDon’tWalk

This is a recording that floats between noise and experimental rock music. Some songs are pure noise and samples, a few are musical in structure, but a bit more “out there” than your average alt rock song. Well, “TheyBurnHouses” is an almost straight up alt rock instrumental, while “Don’tKillPeople(it’snotanicewaytomakefriends)” is pretty much grind/deathcore. Many songs seem to fall somewhere in between the two extremes, where music is recorded and then manipulated like noise music typically is (although many noise projects focus on found noises rather than creating their own music to manipulate). I’m not totally sure if I got all of the breaks between songs right when I cut this into tracks, but at least all of the music is there. I have heard a version of this on mp3 that was missing several parts, including the second half of side 2. This tape was followed by No I Don’t Have Any in the same year.

Man & Hammer – Translation of Emotion

Man & Hammer
Translation of Emotion
1989 Jeru-Slam Records
Sterling City, California, USA

Man & Hammer (David Joo) – All noise

Ryan J. Allen – Noise on “Be Angry and Sin Not”

Side 1:

  1. The Rythm Gives It Away
  2. Good enough
  3. Brian’s Song
  4. Staticlove I
  5. Hypocrite

Side 2:

  1. Faith
  2. Little Children
  3. What Do You Want From Me?
  4. The Problem
  5. Men With Hammers
  6. Be Angry and Sin Not
  7. A Message
  8. Thank You
  9. Peices of Beauty 4

Man & Hammer is a one man noise project by David Joo (aka Squid) of ZOTT (an underground zine), Hellfire (a lo-fi thrash metal band), and Jeru-Slam Records (his own label). As far as I can tell, this is the third Man & Hammer release. It definitely sits between 1988’s Just Say Noise! And 1989’s Not Dead. I just don’t know if there are any Man & Hammer tapes before the first one that I know of (Skeletons in 1988), or any after Not Dead for that matter. Like his other tapes, this one is found noise, distorted and regular spoken vocals, and a lot of randomness. The misspellings in the songs titles above are how they are on the tape jacket.

Graphic Verses – Graphic Verses

Graphic Verses
Graphic Verses
1997 (no label)
Cincinatti, Ohio, USA

Matt Frantz – Vocals, instruments

Side 1:

  1. Hate, Lust & Depression
  2. Confliction
  3. Us

Side 2:

  1. Us (continued)
  2. Flood

Graphic Verses is one of many projects by Matt Frantz, who I believe is still active to this day (or at least recently). This album was also released on CD, which is what I used as a guide for breaking up the tracks. Otherwise, the songs pretty much flow into each other (they are all at least 10 minutes long, with one going over 20). Also, it seems that track 3 is partially on Side 1 and partially on Side 2 on tape, but kept together as one track on the CD. So there might be a slight difference there between the tape and CD. This is a very experimental noise tape, with spoken word and vocal noise played over randomly-played instruments, all of which are often layered on top of each other. This is definitely the more experimental side of noise, compared to the more industrial side of the other tapes I have written about here. You can also find some more information about this project on Frantz’s website.

Twitch – Silent Chaos

Silent Chaos
1997 Rodent Dog Records
Quinby, Virginia, USA

Voideth – Vocal type utterances
Voideth Pessimisticoth – All sounds and sonic manipualtions

Vulnus Degradorium – Additoinal Programming

Side 1:

  1. Worm
  2. Manson
  3. Plan
  4. Waffle

Side 2:

  1. Silent
  2. The Lord’s Prayer
  3. The Beautiful People

Twitch was another noise / experimental act with several releases in the 90s. This one veers a bit more towards industrial than other noise / experimental acts. The distorted vocals, repetitive rhythms and found noise aspects (sometimes with TV or band clips that you recognize) really add to that vibe. Of course, the “vocals” are often noises and random vocal sounds as well as actual vocals, so this is still more noise than industrial. This was at least the second or third Twitch demo that I know of (Thank You – My Dear No One was released in 1996 and Reject #1 in 1997, but I don’t know if it was before or after this one), and it was followed by many more.

Christian Plumber – Chaos

Christian Plumber
2001 Cling Records
Hudsonville, Michigan, USA

Chaos (Scott Busbee) – Everything
X – Vocals on “ABC-DX”

  1. Invocation
  2. Vomitus Christie
  3. Praise the Lord
  4. Geenie Jesus
  5. Batboy
  6. ABC-DX
  7. Ø (my first bass solo)

So Christian Plumber was a noise / experimental / ambient project. The keyboard backing music floats between ambient and freeform randomness, while the vocals are of the spoken word performance variety. In other words, it’s not the spoken word that comes close to poetry reading, but the kind that is somewhere between dramatic performance and random word play and/or vocal noises.  While I am not a huge expert on this kind of music, I do like to listen to it from time to time. But I know it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Most of you will get the band name, but for those that don’t: there are those that object to using Christian as an adjective for things like music (rightly so, because music cannot pray a prayer of salvation). The support for this logic was that “you never see Christian Plumbers advertising their Christian plumbing work out there!” Of course, where I live, there are plumbers that drive around in vans that say “Christian Plumber,” but I get the point they were trying to make. There were at least 4-5 tapes by this project before this one (Yes, Virginia, There Are Christian Plumbers; Crap; Jane Doe; Love Without Hate; etc), but I have yet to find any that came after it. These songs had been released online, but the 9 minute+ “Geenie Jesus” did not make it into that rip.

Centre of Gravity

Centre of Gravity
1985 Stride
Cheshire, England, United Kingdom

Side 1:

  1. Pacific 231 – Psycho Moon
  2. Pacific 231 – Gare De L’est 1943
  3. The Dangerous Bros – On 45
  4. Vox Populi – Pygmies in the Park
  5. Vox Populi – Mind
  6. Vox Populi – Glassy Stare
  7. Face in the Crowd – Clown
  8. Face in the Crowd – Love is Like a Cancer

Side 2:

  1. Griff – Wrant – U – Wrant
  2. Griff – Poser
  3. Griff – Match’s Mate
  4. Celestial Orgy – Pig to the Abbatoir
  5. Celestial Orgy – Feminist
  6. Celestial Orgy – Maths
  7. Inlaws and Outlaws – Foot Inside Your Door
  8. Face in the Crowd – Summer Fool
  9. Face in the Crowd – A Strong Voice
  10. Face in the Crowd – Justice

This is a mysterious compilation from Stride that serves up several songs from mostly noise/industrial/experimental bands – with a few exceptions. So who is on it? First off is Pacific 231, a noise/experimental project by Pierre Jolivet of Paris that has been going since the early 80s. If the band name sounds kind of familiar to you, Pacific 231 has been on some split albums with Psyclones, also an early noise/industrial band that was composed of Brian Ladd (aka Blackhouse) and Julie Frith. I can’t find these songs listed on any Pacific 231 releases, so they might be exclusive to this comp? I can’t find any information on The Dangerous Bros, but they appear to be an experimental free-form band with guitars. Vox Populi has also collaborated with Pacific 231, but is a band from France that has been around since the early 80s. They have an experimental noise sound as well, with some vocals and instruments. Face in the Crowd has released many tapes in the Christian tape underground, usually of a more experimental band sound, with some spoken word parts, some sung parts, random instrument playing, etc. Griff has also been featured here before, but he is experimental folk rock with an extreme British sense of humor. Don’t know much about Celestial Orgy, but it seems they only have compilation appearances listed on Discogs. They appear to be the closest thing to a rock band on here – definitely some alternative guitar and drums, but still more experimental than most alt rock. When they hit the high pitched vocals, it almost reminds me of Danielson. Inlaws and Outlaws is another band I can’t find much on, but they also are the most traditional industrial/electronic band on the compilation (although many others use industrial elements).

Man & Hammer – Just Say Noise!

Man & Hammer
Just Say Noise!
1988 Jeru-Slam Records (JS009)
Sterling City, California, USA

David Joo

  1. The Newage Movement
  2. Revelation 3:20
  3. Revelation 13:15, 16, 17
  4. One Struggle One Fight
  5. Jesus is Comming
  6. Sleeper
  7. Quietly Now
  8. I’m Just a Sinner
  9. Untitled
  10. Just Say Noise
  11. Something I Wanted to Say

This is the second tape by Man & Hammer (or at least, the one after Skeletons if that demo is not the first one). David Joo is pretty much the main person behind Man & Hammer. He also put out a zine called ZOTT (Zine of the Times), ran Jeru-Slam Records, and recorded other projects as well (some under his name – which I have never heard or seen – and one as Hellfire). He also frequently goes by the nickname “Squid” if you ever hear that name mentioned in regards to the tape underground. The sound is similar to other tapes – found sounds, randomly played instruments and/or things, and other noises made to push boundaries.Some people can’t stand this music, I find some it (like this project) oddly intriguing.

Hornswoggle – Bite the Wax Tadpole

Bite the Wax Tadpole
1996 Oral Gestation Artefacts (OGA 13)
Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

Kara Clark
J.W. Case

Side 1:

  1. Track 1
  2. Track 2
  3. Track 3

Side 2:

  1. Track 4
  2. Track 5
  3. Track 6

I was really expecting some dark alternative grunge or something based on the cover, but turns out this is noise. I mean, the music genre “experimental noise” roughly related to industrial, that is. No track names, no people listed, and very little online about this tape (other than that it was recorded live with no overdubs to DAT on Easter morning 1996). It is mostly found noise, distorted samples, and occasional instruments like a recorder played over freeform noise (as opposed to noise music that uses noise to form a discernible rhythm). It is also mostly instrumental, except for the words in the samples and some tracks with trippy spoken word vocals. I did find a page for the band from Automatapedia in the Wayback Machine that gives a few more details, but that is about all there is out there.

Missing Information: Names of tracks, who played what

Face in the Crowd – Singing on the Narrow Ledge

Face in the Crowd
Singing on the Narrow Ledge
1986 Artaman
Cheshire, England United Kingdom

Russell Kirk – Instruments, tapes, effects, noise
Rupert Loydell – Instruments, tapes, effects, noise
Tim Hodgson – Instruments, tapes, effects, noise
Martin Hibbert – Taped flute and vocals

Recorded live February 1986

Side 1:

  1. At Least Six Years…
  2. …What Are You Doing Tomorrow?
  3. We Only Came to Dream
  4. Rotating Globes
  5. Singing on the Narrow Ledge
  6. Attempts at Connection
  7. Nameless Trees Flashed Past
  8. Poor Julia (She Grew Very Strange)
  9. Even Hate Has Some Truth in It

Side 2:

  1. Even Hate Contd.
  2. Power Chooses Its People

This one took a long time to convert to digital. The music is basically live improvisational music, kind of along the lines of White Trash, Inc. Or maybe not – I am not totally familiar with this type of music. That is the closest that I am familiar with. Eventually, I was able to find cassette clicks where the various songs ended and finally made the individual songs. Many of them are named after quotes or samples that are played during the songs. There are instruments played on here, plus found noise and samples as well. Each side is over 47 minutes long – with the last song clocking in at over 33 minutes. I can take White Trash , Inc. on a 7-inch for a short amount of time, but this really pushed my attention span. It probably works better as background or meditation music.